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January 3, 2010

Painting Molded in Windows Fast

You just bought a new kit structure and unfortunately, all of the windows are molded in place with the wall sections!  What do you do now?

The Dilemma

Those of you who haven’t built a DPM or other manufacturer kit that has molded or cast in place windows don’t realize the pain that comes with dealing with them.  Separately molded windows are simple to deal with because you can easily paint them whatever color you would like and snap or glue them in place when dry.  With the molded in windows you need to figure out a way to paint them that suits you best.

One of a few options with painting them is by spraying the entire wall section the color you want and then going back and brushing the window frame color in.  This method can be very time consuming and if your painting skills are not the best, you could over paint onto the brick or siding.  Then you run into the issue of having to touch up the wall color.  If you sprayed the walls then you can’t simply re-spray the area because you will over spray onto the window frame color and then you are back to square one.  You can touch up the sprayed on walls by brush, but then the paint goes on darker and it is obvious what was done.

Another method is to paint the entire wall section the color of the window frames, then come back and brush in the wall color.  Problems with this are similar to the method mentioned above and by brushing the paint onto the walls, you won’t get as good as a coat if you would have sprayed it (this can be argued).  Up till now I would go back and forth between the two methods and usually settled with the first.

If you wanted to spend the time you could do the second method by spraying the walls the color of the windows, then mask them off with tape.  This works but again is VERY time consuming and bleeding is a possibility.   Not something you want to happen if you spent hours getting masking tape to fit in each window.  I spent two days masking off the windows on my Hudson Life Building, only to come back and spend another two hours touching up the bleeds.

The Solution

For the review of the Lunde Studios, Schwitters Dept. Store, I was going to need to mask or hand paint 107 window frames.  Not wanting to waste time I didn’t have, I spent a few minutes trying to develop a solution to my dilemma.  This is the crazy idea I came up with that worked so good for me, that I will never go back to the other “old fashioned” ways again.

note: I will refer to painting as spraying, because it is my preferred method (airbrush or can).  I have not tried this by brushing, but I believe with a few minor changes, it will work as well.

Step 1

Spray the entire wall section the color of what you want the window frame to be.  Allow to dry sufficiently.  If you have a wall section, such as my example, that will have differing colored windows and walls, keep the sections separate until finished painting.

Step 2

Measure the window openings exactly (use calipers if you have them).  Take some .005″ sheet styrene, cut it into strips that is equal to the window opening width.  Cut the strip to the height of the opening.  I recommend using a Northwest Short Line Chopper to do this step so you can reproduce many of the same “Masking Tiles” exactly and quickly.

Why use .005″ styrene you ask?  Tape is difficult to work with and you cant mass produce it like you can with the styrene on a Chopper.  You could cut paper quickly like the styrene, but paper is going to absorb the paint and then bleed onto the masked off areas.  The .005″ styrene is paper thin, stable and reusable.  The paint just gathers on the surface and doesn’t wick underneath and bleed as easy as other materials would.

Step 3

Pop in the Masking Tiles with a hobby knife into the window openings, repeat as much as necessary.  You are now ready to spray.

Window_Paint_1

Don't force the tiles in, gently work them in. If they wont go in, trim the tile to fit.

Window_Paint_2

All tiles are in. Took about 20 min. to mask 60 windows.

Painting

When you spray the wall, care needs to be taken.  If a Masking Tile is a little loose then the air flow from the airbrush or spray can catch them and send them flying.  Spraying from a good distance and no fast motions seem to remedy this.  Making the opposite site of the Masking Tile a little tacky may help, however I have not tried this yet.

To lower risk of bleeding, spray even and light coats (I had one coat go on heavy and had very slim to no bleeding).

Because the Masking Tiles are just sitting in the openings, you need to keep the paint surface level.  Because of this, if you have a assembled structure, you will only be able to paint one surface at a time.  You can reuse the Masking Tiles on the other faces and be sure to cover the other faces from over spray.  When done just pop the tiles out from the inside of the wall.

Just after painting, no touch up has been done.

Just after painting, no touch up has been done.

Conclusion

While this method wont work in every situation and some of you may not like it.  That is fine, but it has me sold, if I would have done this my usual way, it would have taken ten plus hours and would have looked okay.  I feel I cut that down by 90%  or more and the results are near perfect.  I welcome questions on this method and recommend trying it on a little DPM structure or something similar first, and PLEASE tell me how it worked for you, bad or good.

Masked off brick wall, Masking Tiles are being reused.

Masked off brick wall, Masking Tiles are being reused.

Again, no paint touch up has been done.

Again, no paint touch up has been done.

About the Author

— Co-founder of N scale Limited, Chris was bitten by the model railroading bug when he was 14, originally working with HO scale he soon discovered the limitless possibilities of N scale. It was only a few years ago when Chris decided that it was time to break free of the kit bubble and begin scratch building structures. The few structures Chris has built have gone on to acquire multiple Best of Show awards in NMRA and non-NMRA judged shows. He is also a member of the budding Junction City N-scalers modular club based out of Ogden, UT that will strive for the best of what N-scale modelers have to offer.
  • Thanks Anthony,
    I still am surprised at how fast it worked, I hope to try it further on a few other structures soon.

    As long as the windows were the exact same size then yes, you could reuse them as much as you want.
  • Excellent, excellent idea!

    I would've thought using such a method would actually be more time consuming than painting the windows by hand...but it makes sense to do it this way.

    I would imagine that your styrene masking tiles could be reused on other structures as well!
  • Thanks Rick,
    I have heard of that similar technique being done but with the base color
    that you already have down, I guess a clear coat would do basically the same. Thanks for sharing.

    Chris

    BTW, I have enjoyed studying and using your layout for inspiration for the past few years, both in magazines and your site. Thanks for visiting.
  • Chris,

    This is an excellent clinic on masking city winsows. Last night I have been hand painting some window frames and sills on brick buildings that looked rather plain. I used a medium and a fine Micro Brush and water based acrillic paints. It is good enough at a foot or two away, but suffers in quality when close up photography is used.

    A technique I used 35 years ago to prevent color bleeding when masking with tape was the following. Spray two or three light clear coats over the model being masked. Dullcoat is good. Gloss or semi gloss could be used for locomotives. The clear coat bleeds and seals the masking tape, so that the color coat does not bleed through. It is not a pefectr technique, but has usually worked for me.

    I just thought I'd share.

    Rick

    PS Who ever Bob is, he does very nice work.
  • That's right, how could I have forgotten about that! I even have a bottle of it sitting on mywork bench.
  • You could also try the Hob-e-Tac from Woodland Scenics. A drop keeps figures, cars and other details in place, but it actually removable without any residue.
  • Thom,
    In N scale you have a limited supply of doors and windows unfortunately. Basically all you have are a few from Titcy Train Group and Grandt Line.
  • Where can you find good windows & doors for scratch building?
  • Frank,
    It is okay if you have been MIA, we all still love you. :) I cant wait to see you modeling again, but when you can and have the desire.
  • I think I have got it!!!
    Two ideas actually, first I found a restickable Glue Stick made by 3M. The other is a product that scrap bookers use called Glue Dots that come in a removable style. If the Glue Dots are thin, then I think I have the answer.
  • Mike,
    This might work in some situations. On the structure I did this on, the tiles are sitting on the full frame of the window. Thus putting the tile about .060" away from the back and I don't think the tape would reach it.
    I actually had the front of the building taped down to a paper plate so I had something to hold while I sprayed it. The tape didn't touch the tiles.
    However if you cut the tape into a long strip that is narrow enough then this would work. Hmm, I need to start trying some of these ideas when I can.

    Thanks Mike.
  • Chris, I know I've been pretty MIA lately -- hoping to remedy that soon. But what a treat to come to the site and see this fantastic article. Brilliant idea and like everyone else, I know I'll be trying it!
  • Mike
    Just a thought on keeping the styrene in place. Run a strip of masking tape all the way across the back of the windows prior to popping in the styrene tiles. They are thin enough and if the tape is not too tight, it should hold the tiles quite acceptably...haven't tried it.
  • Bob & Greg,
    You guys are welcome, I hope it works well for everyone.
  • Greg Woolliscroft
    Hi Bob.....no I don't have this building but do have a DPM still in the packet......I should hopefully be able to get everything I need to fit out my EL cars...if anyone has any ideas where I coould find suitable interior fittings that would be great..I'll also need the correct chassis.....
  • Bob
    GREG you have to get back to your hobby!!! did u order this building too?
  • Greg Woolliscroft
    if ever I can get back into my beloved hobby I will try this....
  • Greg Woolliscroft
    wow, will try this when I get back into things....
  • Bob
    Damn I need a chopper! :D Thanks for the tip and article. Fantastic idea. I'll try this when I get mine started. Heck...I still haven't started my Galt towers yet...hahaha.

    thanks again!!!
  • George Hamilton
    Chris, I'm sure glad I waited until you built yours. I would never have thought of using plastic masks for the windows. Thanks for the great tip.
  • Michael, I thought about tape, and it might work. I have also thought about a spray mount or temporary fixative. The only reason I hesitate is because I don't know if it will leave a residue or not. I might experiment on an old DPM kit and see what works well.
  • Steve, I know exactly what you mean. As soon as anybody tries it please let me know. I want to make sure it works for others.
  • Excellent idea Chris. What about a little masking tape or blue painters tape applied to the backside of the wall and pressed into each window as a way to tack the masks in place?
  • Steve
    Thanks Chris....
    Now I gotta do my whole downtown over again! :-)
  • Thanks guys,
    I still am in disbelief with how easy it worked. I need to find a way to make the one face a little tacky so wouldn't have any issues with the air flow blowing the tiles away.

    Jimmi, you ha no idea I wish I could have discovered this earlier as well.
  • Screwjack
    Chris,

    This is why you get paid the "Big Bucks!" LOL!

    Keck of an idea, I will definitely use it when I get to that stage of my modeling.

    Thanks,
    Tony
  • Jim Boyer
    Great timing Chris. I just finished painting 116 window frames in my Quinntopia Arms Apartment building!
    Really a great idea. I know I'm going to try it when I get my Schwitters kit.
    Thanks
    Jim
  • Don
    Chris,
    Fantastic! Why didn't I think of this? As they say, the best ideas are the simple ones. What a time saver, and who likes to paint individual windows over and over and over anyway?
    I love it,
    Don
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